Comments on: The hypocrites of homosexuality http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/ "Hitch your wagon to a star." —Ralph Waldo Emerson Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:36:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Top of the Mountains » Blog Archive » A birthday party http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-29287 Top of the Mountains » Blog Archive » A birthday party Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:07:12 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-29287 [...] April 2006: Orson Scott Card’s essay on homosexuality, and a link to my Beyond project (genealogy software), which has been hibernating for a while now but once I graduate I’ll have time to resurrect it. [...] [...] April 2006: Orson Scott Card’s essay on homosexuality, and a link to my Beyond project (genealogy software), which has been hibernating for a while now but once I graduate I’ll have time to resurrect it. [...]

]]> By: Ben http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-29196 Ben Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:51:00 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-29196 conor: Liz is right, we're talking about the chronologically first commandment. :) Connor: I figured you'd want to do that. ;) Shirley: Interesting, I hadn't heard about that. (But I haven't been very good at keeping up with the news lately.) It makes me happy to hear that there are still public figures who aren't afraid to stand up for what's right. I'm sick of all this political correctness which basically silences people unless they share the prevailing opinion of the day. Bah. Anyway, three cheers for Pace, no matter how much trouble he gets into because of it. conor: Liz is right, we’re talking about the chronologically first commandment. :)

Connor: I figured you’d want to do that. ;)

Shirley: Interesting, I hadn’t heard about that. (But I haven’t been very good at keeping up with the news lately.) It makes me happy to hear that there are still public figures who aren’t afraid to stand up for what’s right. I’m sick of all this political correctness which basically silences people unless they share the prevailing opinion of the day. Bah. Anyway, three cheers for Pace, no matter how much trouble he gets into because of it.

]]> By: Shirley http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28724 Shirley Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:03:31 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28724 I'm glad that General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had the guts to share his opinion that "homosexual acts are immoral." Reportedly, he was asked for his personal opinion and he gave it. I don't know how much trouble he is in now, but at least Truth is on his side. I’m glad that General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had the guts to share his opinion that “homosexual acts are immoral.” Reportedly, he was asked for his personal opinion and he gave it. I don’t know how much trouble he is in now, but at least Truth is on his side.

]]> By: Connor http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28680 Connor Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:57:55 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28680 I would like to state for the record that I am not "conor" on this thread. :) I would like to state for the record that I am not “conor” on this thread. :)

]]> By: Liz Muir http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28677 Liz Muir Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:32:41 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28677 Yes, Conor, you are right if we're speaking of the 10 Commandments. But I think what we're refering to is God's first commandment in general--to multiply and replenish the earth. Yes, Conor, you are right if we’re speaking of the 10 Commandments. But I think what we’re refering to is God’s first commandment in general–to multiply and replenish the earth.

]]> By: conor http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28561 conor Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:18:17 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-28561 Has any body here actually opened a bible? The Ten comandments have nothing to do with the creation of Adam and Eve. Remember this guy named Moses? The first commandment is somthing like worship no other God's before me. Ring any bells? Has any body here actually opened a bible? The Ten comandments have nothing to do with the creation of Adam and Eve. Remember this guy named Moses? The first commandment is somthing like worship no other God’s before me. Ring any bells?

]]> By: All Dressed Up With Nowhere To Go » Homosexuality and Modernism http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-720 All Dressed Up With Nowhere To Go » Homosexuality and Modernism Wed, 10 May 2006 05:28:00 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-720 [...]      While perusing an associate’s writings, I came across this article of his on homosexuality and the subsequent discussion on it.  It’s an issue I’ve wrestled with in my mind a great deal, especially when I found out one of my step-brothers was gay.  To me, he was a shining example of what a faithful Latter-Day Saint should be.  He knew of the doctrine and of current events and enjoyed discussing them (not debating them, which I still find amazing).  He was kind, funny, and almost always pleasant mannered.  The only time I heard him raise his voice or yell was at me once and I thoroughly deserved it.  [...] [...]      While perusing an associate’s writings, I came across this article of his on homosexuality and the subsequent discussion on it.  It’s an issue I’ve wrestled with in my mind a great deal, especially when I found out one of my step-brothers was gay.  To me, he was a shining example of what a faithful Latter-Day Saint should be.  He knew of the doctrine and of current events and enjoyed discussing them (not debating them, which I still find amazing).  He was kind, funny, and almost always pleasant mannered.  The only time I heard him raise his voice or yell was at me once and I thoroughly deserved it.  [...]

]]> By: Liz http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-506 Liz Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:11:02 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-506 Seth: I, as of the SoulForce visit, now know someone who identifies himself as "gay." I don't hate him. I don't think he's an evil person. I just think he is wrong about this, just as I am sure I am wrong when I make incorrect choices. All of the pro-GLBT "rights" people have yet to make any answer as to the lack of scientific evidence that homosexuals are "born that way." Like Ben says, when you actually counter our arguments, we will have a discussion. If you have an actual argument, come over to my blog and make it. I'd like to hear it, since I have yet to hear any valid arguments or rebuttals to our arguments. Seth:

I, as of the SoulForce visit, now know someone who identifies himself as “gay.” I don’t hate him. I don’t think he’s an evil person. I just think he is wrong about this, just as I am sure I am wrong when I make incorrect choices. All of the pro-GLBT “rights” people have yet to make any answer as to the lack of scientific evidence that homosexuals are “born that way.” Like Ben says, when you actually counter our arguments, we will have a discussion. If you have an actual argument, come over to my blog and make it. I’d like to hear it, since I have yet to hear any valid arguments or rebuttals to our arguments.

]]> By: Ben http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-310 Ben Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:15:14 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-310 Well, well, well. I honestly don't know how to respond to this brilliantly eloquent comment, which so lucidly makes a case for itself that I'm left with no ground to stand on. Rats, I <i>was</i> going to try to be nice. ~sigh~ First off, let's look at Genesis 1: <blockquote> Verse 27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Verse 28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. </blockquote> So the first thing that God said to Adam and Eve after he created them was, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth." Yup, that sounds like the first commandment to me. Next, homosexuality is in no way more harmful than heterosexuality? Let's see, it only happens to destroy families. Yeah, that's not harmful at all. Right. And it leads to promiscuity and sexually transmitted diseases. Oh, those don't hurt. Yup. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, just like pedophilia and all the rest. It's not the way God intended things to be. Period. Twisting nature and truth to fit your worldview is wrong and intellectually dishonest. If you're really trying to win us over to your viewpoint, by the way, you ought to have a solid position <i>and</i> evidence, not just emotional whining without form or substance. And no more ad hominem name calling, too. Well, well, well. I honestly don’t know how to respond to this brilliantly eloquent comment, which so lucidly makes a case for itself that I’m left with no ground to stand on.

Rats, I was going to try to be nice. ~sigh~ First off, let’s look at Genesis 1:

Verse 27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Verse 28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So the first thing that God said to Adam and Eve after he created them was, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.” Yup, that sounds like the first commandment to me.

Next, homosexuality is in no way more harmful than heterosexuality? Let’s see, it only happens to destroy families. Yeah, that’s not harmful at all. Right. And it leads to promiscuity and sexually transmitted diseases. Oh, those don’t hurt. Yup. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, just like pedophilia and all the rest. It’s not the way God intended things to be. Period. Twisting nature and truth to fit your worldview is wrong and intellectually dishonest.

If you’re really trying to win us over to your viewpoint, by the way, you ought to have a solid position and evidence, not just emotional whining without form or substance. And no more ad hominem name calling, too.

]]> By: Seth http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-309 Seth Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:39:40 +0000 http://www.topofthemountains.net/2006/04/15/the-hypocrites-of-homosexuality/#comment-309 Incredibly ignorant. "And don’t forget that the first commandment was to multiply and replenish the earth." Um, no. That isn't the first commandment. And your ignorance flows on from there. And this other boob. Homosexuality is not like alcoholism or pedophilia. It is in no way more harmful than heterosexuality. Do you even know any homosexuals? Close friends or family? Both of your posts are textbook homophobia. Incredibly ignorant. “And don’t forget that the first commandment was to multiply and replenish the earth.” Um, no. That isn’t the first commandment. And your ignorance flows on from there. And this other boob. Homosexuality is not like alcoholism or pedophilia. It is in no way more harmful than heterosexuality. Do you even know any homosexuals? Close friends or family? Both of your posts are textbook homophobia.

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