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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59488</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have it but (gasp) haven't read it yet.  (I'm reading &lt;i&gt;Every Book Its Reader&lt;/i&gt; first.  But I'm itching to start AGM next.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it but (gasp) haven&#8217;t read it yet.  (I&#8217;m reading <i>Every Book Its Reader</i> first.  But I&#8217;m itching to start AGM next.)
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		<title>by: M</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59455</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I did so love &lt;i&gt;A Gentle Madness&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did so love <i>A Gentle Madness</i>.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59428</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Haley: Haha, stenchblossoms -- wow.  That's hilarious.  Good points, too.  Do you think the alias &quot;Anonymous&quot; falls somewhere in between one's real name and &quot;smoochmonkey&quot; on the credibility scale?  I'm afraid I associate the name Ginger with the evil lawyer-esque cat in C.S. Lewis's &lt;i&gt;The Last Battle,&lt;/i&gt; but I agree with M, I'm more of a Mary Ann kind of guy.

M: I need to remember that as I make my books. :)  Covers certainly make a difference for me, along with typography (a biggie) and paper type and the feel of the book.  For the record, I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; the feel of Nicholas Basbanes' books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haley: Haha, stenchblossoms &#8212; wow.  That&#8217;s hilarious.  Good points, too.  Do you think the alias &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; falls somewhere in between one&#8217;s real name and &#8220;smoochmonkey&#8221; on the credibility scale?  I&#8217;m afraid I associate the name Ginger with the evil lawyer-esque cat in C.S. Lewis&#8217;s <i>The Last Battle,</i> but I agree with M, I&#8217;m more of a Mary Ann kind of guy.</p>
<p>M: I need to remember that as I make my books. :)  Covers certainly make a difference for me, along with typography (a biggie) and paper type and the feel of the book.  For the record, I <i>love</i> the feel of Nicholas Basbanes&#8217; books.
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		<title>by: M</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59381</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ginger, in a heartbeat.  (Although I'm more of a Mary Ann kind of guy)

Book covers.  Oh, that's a bit of a sore spot for me.  I really don't like &lt;i&gt;Catcher in the Rye&lt;/i&gt;, but I'm not throwing it off my bookshelf because that cover is just so darn good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger, in a heartbeat.  (Although I&#8217;m more of a Mary Ann kind of guy)</p>
<p>Book covers.  Oh, that&#8217;s a bit of a sore spot for me.  I really don&#8217;t like <i>Catcher in the Rye</i>, but I&#8217;m not throwing it off my bookshelf because that cover is just so darn good.
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		<title>by: Haley</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59378</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So, just for tangent's sake, I thought I'd throw a Simpson's quote into the mixture:

Lisa: A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.
Bart: Not if you call 'em stenchblossoms.

I think names DO carry weight, despite our ideal that content matters. We tell people not to judge a book by its cover because, the fact is, they do. I believe it's true that using a real name carries more credibility than a silly alias like &quot;smoochmonkey&quot; or something along those lines. That's why we use real names or initials in work e-mail addresses--because we want to look professional. And if you were looking in the yellow pages for a lawyer, would you rather pick someone named Ginger or someone named Catherine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, just for tangent&#8217;s sake, I thought I&#8217;d throw a Simpson&#8217;s quote into the mixture:</p>
<p>Lisa: A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.<br />
Bart: Not if you call &#8216;em stenchblossoms.</p>
<p>I think names DO carry weight, despite our ideal that content matters. We tell people not to judge a book by its cover because, the fact is, they do. I believe it&#8217;s true that using a real name carries more credibility than a silly alias like &#8220;smoochmonkey&#8221; or something along those lines. That&#8217;s why we use real names or initials in work e-mail addresses&#8211;because we want to look professional. And if you were looking in the yellow pages for a lawyer, would you rather pick someone named Ginger or someone named Catherine?
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59157</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Janet: In a perfect world, yes, it would be nice to debate solely on the merits of the policy itself in a logical manner, uninfluenced by personality or party.  But, as my comment about the weight and stigma of an anonymous comment was meant to convey, I think that anonymity is too often associated with having something to hide, and so it seems like it wouldn't quite work.  There's too much baggage associated with anonymity.

M: Agreed.  (Again. :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet: In a perfect world, yes, it would be nice to debate solely on the merits of the policy itself in a logical manner, uninfluenced by personality or party.  But, as my comment about the weight and stigma of an anonymous comment was meant to convey, I think that anonymity is too often associated with having something to hide, and so it seems like it wouldn&#8217;t quite work.  There&#8217;s too much baggage associated with anonymity.</p>
<p>M: Agreed.  (Again. :))
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		<title>by: M</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59121</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Janet: Campaigning is different than an underground, unacknowledged campaign.  Remember how people leapt on the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth because they had ties to the Bush campaign?  If you're a public figure, making statements in favor of your own position, you should have the guts to put your name at the end, so there's no mistake as to who's saying these things.  Otherwise, you're misleading the public, pure and simple.  There's a reason candidates for office have to run those &quot;This is M, and I approve this message&quot; statements at the end of their ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet: Campaigning is different than an underground, unacknowledged campaign.  Remember how people leapt on the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth because they had ties to the Bush campaign?  If you&#8217;re a public figure, making statements in favor of your own position, you should have the guts to put your name at the end, so there&#8217;s no mistake as to who&#8217;s saying these things.  Otherwise, you&#8217;re misleading the public, pure and simple.  There&#8217;s a reason candidates for office have to run those &#8220;This is M, and I approve this message&#8221; statements at the end of their ads.
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		<title>by: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59060</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ben,

&quot;Anyway, do you think anonymous writings (whether posts or comments or whatever) carry enough weight that they could do the same thing nowadays? Or is there a stigma attached?&quot;

It depends on the topic and the expertise of the person making the comment. A person with celebrity is oft given a weighted advantage over a learned person with a deep understanding. What does actor X  know about foreign policy that makes him the expert? On the other hand, if an expert were to debate anonymously, given their superior knowledge of the topic, the expert's argument should prevail if properly presented.

My take on it is that logic would prevail if everything else was left out of the mix. However, if the topic is a moral issue, personality would play a weighted role in the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway, do you think anonymous writings (whether posts or comments or whatever) carry enough weight that they could do the same thing nowadays? Or is there a stigma attached?&#8221;</p>
<p>It depends on the topic and the expertise of the person making the comment. A person with celebrity is oft given a weighted advantage over a learned person with a deep understanding. What does actor X  know about foreign policy that makes him the expert? On the other hand, if an expert were to debate anonymously, given their superior knowledge of the topic, the expert&#8217;s argument should prevail if properly presented.</p>
<p>My take on it is that logic would prevail if everything else was left out of the mix. However, if the topic is a moral issue, personality would play a weighted role in the outcome.
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		<title>by: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59059</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>M, 

&quot;If the President proposed a major policy plan, then had an underground campaign of letters to the editor, blog entries, comments on major sites and calls to public radio, people would get upset.&quot; Ask anyone who has worked in a call center on one of these campaigns about it.

There is no &quot;if&quot; about it. This does happen. My point is that logic would have a better chance to rule if personality, party affiliation... were left out of the equation and ONLY the policy was considered.

Example: If Hillary were to say, &quot;I think people should pay tithing,&quot; the reaction would be Bill dropped his pants. If Bush says the same thing people would respond, &quot;Republicans don't want to pay taxes.&quot;

I believe that Issue X has a better chance of being debated on solely on its own merits if personality and party are left out of the equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, </p>
<p>&#8220;If the President proposed a major policy plan, then had an underground campaign of letters to the editor, blog entries, comments on major sites and calls to public radio, people would get upset.&#8221; Ask anyone who has worked in a call center on one of these campaigns about it.</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;if&#8221; about it. This does happen. My point is that logic would have a better chance to rule if personality, party affiliation&#8230; were left out of the equation and ONLY the policy was considered.</p>
<p>Example: If Hillary were to say, &#8220;I think people should pay tithing,&#8221; the reaction would be Bill dropped his pants. If Bush says the same thing people would respond, &#8220;Republicans don&#8217;t want to pay taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that Issue X has a better chance of being debated on solely on its own merits if personality and party are left out of the equation.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.topofthemountains.net/2007/12/27/by-any-other-name/#comment-59058</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>M&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;: I agree.  Most of what people say probably won't have serious repercussions, but on the occasions when it can turn explosive (or deadly), anonymity is a nice shield to hide behind.  Of course, as you mentioned, it's hard to maintain, and once it's lost, it's lost.

rikker: And I agree with you, too. :)  It seems that perhaps as a general rule, transparency is good, except in cases where it would subvert the purpose of the writer (as M mentions with FSJ) or where it would endanger them.

Janet: I figured that was what you meant -- the only way you could possibly disagree with what &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; said was if you thought the post I quoted wasn't interesting. :P  Anyway, do you think anonymous writings (whether posts or comments or whatever) carry enough weight that they could do the same thing nowadays?  Or is there a stigma attached?

M&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;: Agreed.

Man, I want to re-read the Federalist Papers.  It's been too long...  (To be specific, I haven't read them since my AP Government class seven years ago.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M<sub>1</sub>: I agree.  Most of what people say probably won&#8217;t have serious repercussions, but on the occasions when it can turn explosive (or deadly), anonymity is a nice shield to hide behind.  Of course, as you mentioned, it&#8217;s hard to maintain, and once it&#8217;s lost, it&#8217;s lost.</p>
<p>rikker: And I agree with you, too. :)  It seems that perhaps as a general rule, transparency is good, except in cases where it would subvert the purpose of the writer (as M mentions with FSJ) or where it would endanger them.</p>
<p>Janet: I figured that was what you meant &#8212; the only way you could possibly disagree with what <i>I</i> said was if you thought the post I quoted wasn&#8217;t interesting. :P  Anyway, do you think anonymous writings (whether posts or comments or whatever) carry enough weight that they could do the same thing nowadays?  Or is there a stigma attached?</p>
<p>M<sub>2</sub>: Agreed.</p>
<p>Man, I want to re-read the Federalist Papers.  It&#8217;s been too long&#8230;  (To be specific, I haven&#8217;t read them since my AP Government class seven years ago.)
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